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#43091 - 04/14/08 11:28 AM Concern about college savings affecting financial aid
Joe Hurley Administrator
Registered: 01/07/00
Posts: 2080
How concerned are you that your college savings will negatively affect your child's chances for financial aid? Our new poll poses that question to our site visitors. It's an issue that comes up repeatedly on our message board and in my media interviews. It's also an important question for the providers of 529 plans whose messages stress the importance of college savings.

Not that the level of financial-aid concern should surprise anyone: the large majority of college students rely to some degree on financial aid. And there's also a lot of confusion. The financial aid formulas are more complex that your income taxes, and they seem to change just as often.

Before giving out our own advice--there's already a lot of financial-aid information on this site--we'll give everyone a chance to respond to our poll. Please register your own opinion and add your comments to this message board.

Joe

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#43376 - 05/20/08 01:24 PM Re: Concern about college savings affecting financial aid [Re: Joe Hurley]
Drew
Registered: 01/09/00
Posts: 2478
I am convinced that we put more and more patches on a socially convoluted equation. In effect a students access to aid is based on his genetics or more politely the success of his ancestors. And in some contexts one gets more aid given that one has saved more--why--because statistically you are a better candidate to recruit. In a system of patchwork we wind up with a convoluted Robin Hood answer where in rich pay for poor -w or w/o ability except when institution has deep pockets then some folks do not pay at all but others pay full and we have a systems of formulas to divine who should pay--and more enforcement issues than does IRS with 1040's.

I happen to be a fan of more open admission based on ability and everyone pays close to the same--and whether you pay out of past, current or future earnings is moot. The role of society being to provide loans to those who expect to pay out of future capacity. But thats not the direction we are headed.

Under the current rules if I save in right hand it hurts but if I save in left hand it helps but if I merely squander it , it doesn't hurt, but the rules for next year may change ---and so it goes-----and while I think the system has a lot of disincentives to save I'm not about to put my children or grandchildren out to test the theory.
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#43436 - 05/29/08 11:49 PM Re: Concern about college savings affecting financial aid [Re: Drew]
TexasCFP
Registered: 08/23/01
Posts: 756
I think one of the issues we face as a nation is that there are too many students chasing too few dollars. I read a study recently pointing out that only about 10% of the jobs in our economy require a college degree. Yet we push huge numbers of poorly prepared students into expensive college classes which many fail. The graduation rates at many state schools is well below 50% in 5 years. If we spent a fraction of our higher education budget on trade schools and removed the social stigma from being a highly paid plumber or carpenter I think we could solve much of this funding problem. Denying financial aid to poor students for other than community college is another economic efficiency that could free up dollars for good students with need. Sigh...so many issues so little time!
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#43440 - 05/30/08 04:45 PM Re: Concern about college savings affecting financial aid [Re: TexasCFP]
Drew
Registered: 01/09/00
Posts: 2478
And to encourge student to take courses with negative return on inventment then forgive the debt is even worse.

Hey, in my area part time meat cutters get $29 an hour and that requires about 8th grade formal education ---so if a kid starts cutting meat at age 17 how long does it take his sister who went to party at old U for 5.5 years at -$47,000 a year after tax to catch up....
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#43523 - 06/24/08 08:17 PM Re: Concern about college savings affecting financial aid [Re: Drew]
briheller
Registered: 03/13/06
Posts: 7
I'm confident a regular 529 plan will not adversely impact financial aid. But what about the SAGE Tuition Rewards plan? Since it's structured as a financial aid reward, assigned to a specific child, could that hurt their chances for other aid (or at least cannibalize the aid they'd otherwise receive)?
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